Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Over at Red Alert ...

Trevor Mallard has gone into bat for his former benchmate over at Red Alert. Amongst other things, he says:

I don’t accept the view that he is picked on because he is gay. He is picked on because there is a common view that he has travelled too much. But there is no doubt that lots of people are putting an extra boot into Chris because he is gay. One only has to look at Whaleoil (yes I did) or many comments on Kiwiblog to see the bile that homophobes are writing.

All of us make mistakes in our jobs. Sometimes we don’t see it. I’ve had a few examples. Would have been better for my career if I didn’t call Tau Uncle Tom or if I kept some space between us.


Now Trevor Mallard is not entirely a babe in the woods when it comes to homophobia. So we helpfully added this comment


Inventory2 says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Trevor – I commend you for your loyalty to a colleague, especially one you admit you are not close to. However, when you are making accusations about homophobia, maybe you ought to preface it with some self-condemnation of a certain interjection that you made against Christopher Finlayson last October, which is recorded in Hansard. Perhaps it can be explained under the “We all make mistakes at work” banner.


It's since been moderated, with a comment from Trevor Mallard who says "I understand what homophobia is". Indeed he does; check this out, from the Hansard of Question Time, Thursday 15 October 2009 - it's the crossover between Q11 (to Christopher Finlayson) and Q12:

Hon Steve Chadwick: Will he provide an answer assuring that there will be no decrease in Government funding for the arts and culture sector as a result of any increase in charitable giving by private individuals to the arts and cultural institutions?

Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: I am seeking to grow the arts budget. I have made it clear on a number of occasions that the Government has very real responsibilities to fund the arts and that, in addition, the increase in funding from private and corporate sources will encourage an explosion in the arts.

Education—National Standards

12. Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour—Hutt South) to the Minister of Education: Does she stand by her reported statement that—[Interruption] Tinkerbell, can you settle down?

Mr SPEAKER: That is not acceptable. I ask the House to come to order. The member asking the question often interjects when other members are asking questions. I ask him to just ask his question.


So what's your first thought when someone says "Tinkerbell"?
Here's what comes up when you type in Tinkerbell on Google. It's obviously OK for Mr Mallard to make comments like that to an openly gay National MP in the bearpit that is Parliament, but when someone makes comments against one of his gay colleagues, that's homophobia. We're guessing that Trevor Mallard's decision to censor a factual and carefully-worded comment might suggest that he's not happy that his words have come back to bite him. That's his problem.

For what it's worth, we don't want to go down the homophobia road either, and we'll keep a close eye on any comments to this thread. We have a close family member of whom we are enormously proud, who happens to be gay. Their sexuality is not an issue to us; nor is Chris Carter's. The only issue we have with Chris Carter is his attitude to OPM - Other People's Money. Maybe Trevor Mallard should focus on the REAL reason why Mr Carter is currently on leave.


7 comments:

mawm said...

We all make mistakes, but recidivists generally are not making mistakes but rather showing a behavioral problem. Carters behavior is unacceptable and, for one who occupied a Ministerial post in the Labour government, shows contempt for the people of New Zealand. Maybe once they understand that the'll understand why there is so much opprobrium being heaped on Carter...... and it is not because he is gay.

That said, there are many deeply conservative Christians, some of them were traditionally Labour supporters, who believe that homosexually is a sin. To openly flaunt it in their faces while cheating on his ministerial credit card will draw the kind of reaction he is getting.

He fails on both the above.

Redbaiter said...

Homophobia is a made up word. There is no such thing.

Inventory2 said...

You're dead right mawm - we all make mistakes, and I have made more than my share over the years. That was why I gave Trevor Mallard an "out" in what I attempted to post. Things are said in the heat of the moment which are later regretted. Mallard's decision to censor my post suggests that, like Chris Carter, he doesn't believe that he made a mistake.

As for the "gay" issue, I agree with your comments.

Inventory2 said...

Redbaiter - agree wholeheartedly. Just as the homosexual lobby has cornered the use of the word "gay", homophobia is a concept which means whatever you want it to mean at the time; a bit like "hate speech".

Manolo said...

Mallard is scum. Period.

Anonymous said...

I've just got banned. I feel kind of hurt - never even thrown out of a pub (thrown in to one once but that is another story). Anyway here is the story. I posted this on red alert:
GPT says:
June 18, 2010 at 1:26 am

1. Chris Carter is on stress leave. I can live with the call to leave him alone.
2. I found the chase through parliament a bit distasteful, even if he was avoiding legitimate questions (and I see Lockwood has dealt with it). I thought going to his house after announcement of leave was just low.
3. I take it that you will ensure that you and your colleagues will no longer be making references to not helpful – deleted Trevor when he speaks in the House?
4. Individuals may well show their ignorance by making unnecessary, tasteless and/or rude comments about Carter’s personal life but that is different to the suggestion that he is being picked on because he is gay. This story is primarily pushed by the MSM and they, and most of the public, are well and truly past judging people on lifestyle.
5. Carter was the one that played the “gay card” and it is insulting to the majority of New Zealanders who would only ever think to judge him on his performance as an MP and Minister – something the public is entitled to do

The deleted bit was a referece to Nick Smith and pills.

In a fit of good humour, admittedly pointed, I then posted:

I can get that calling you on hypocracy is not helpful but
is it really worth censorship?

Cheers

To which the response is:
Three months period where you can plague the arachnephobic blowhole or the penguin – bye Trevor

Now Ok, I horrifically misspelt hypocrisy but to shut down free speech like that?

And I assume the references are to Whaleoil and Farrar. Good to see he is in the spirit of open debate and polite exchange of names.

Their blog I guess but don't pretend it is an open forum.

Cheers
GPT

Inventory2 said...

You're right GPT - he was referring to Whale and DPF - the "arachnephobic" reference is quite a clever play on Cam's post the other night that he WASN'T homophobic because he wasn't afraid of homosexuals, only spiders!

Perhaps Trevor will be talking to the Chinese security guys today about censorship! Thanks for sharing!