Monday, August 22, 2011

Clare's Monday SMOG

We've blogged a bit about SMOG's lately; Social Media Own Goals. Well, Clare Curran has scored an absolute beauty today. Over at Red Alert, and under the heading The importance of being Labour, she blogged:

Have had a gutsful of the white-anting of Labour from both the right and the left of politics.

White-anting is an Australian expression. It means undermining. I lived there for 14 years, worked for the trade union movement and as a public relations professional. Proud of my time there, the work I did and the people I worked with.


Now Clare, as she proudly points out is a "public relations professional". So what was she thinking when she followed he first post up with one entitled The importance of being Labour #2? There she blogged:

And on another note, re white-anting; the attempts by the Greens to encroach on Labour territory is also happening in Australia. Former AWU Secretary Bill Shorten (now Assistant Finance Minister) got it right when he said that people will always need unions and that Labor and unions were a “bulwark of democracy”.

“The idea that people, when they go to work, don’t need assistance is wrong.”

Mr Shorten said his view of unionism was not based on the idea that workers were stupid or unable to think for themselves.

But an individual working in a large company would always need support.

“The company has a human resources manager, the company belongs to an employer association, the company has lawyers,” he said.

“Who do you have?”

Mr Shorten said Labor’s mission to deliver social justice remained in place and that the party’s strongest asset was its ability to tailor policies to help people cope with change.

He said he did not want to spark a verbal stoush with the Greens but noted that the minor party had no economic story.

The New Zealand Labour Party has its roots in the trade union movement. The unions are evolving and adapting as they should.The Labour Party draws on talent from many walks of life, as it should. It’s perspectives are not always in direct alignment with unions.

But let’s not every forget where we came from and what our enduring values are. And how important that relationship is.

I won’t.

Her #2 post went up at 2.46pm. By 3.16pm, the deluge of comments had begun, and from unexpected sources. Here's the first couple:

  • Greens white-anting Labour?

    Surely you mean, contesting the same constituency rather than ‘encroaching’, right?

    You seriously think you have the unquestioning allegiance of my vote as a worker?

    I don’t think you need to look to far to see why mobilising labour in NZ is facing a few hurdles with this kind of thinking.

  • Is it seriously Labour policy to attack the party’s MMP allies now?

Shortly afterwards, Idiot/Savant from No Right Turn climbed in:

  • The concept that some votes are Labour’s exclusive “territory” is a perfect example of what is wrong with Labour ATM.

    Wake up. There is no Divine Right in democracy. Votes don’t “belong” to your party – you have to earn them. And if you can’t, if other people are doing a better ob of appealing to your traditional constituencies, then you have no-one to blame but yourself.

And not long afterwards Chris Trotter joined the fray:

  • Well, Clare, if Labour really wanted to test the Greens commitment to building (or should that be re-building?) a strong trade union movement, it could simply ask for the Green Party’s support in re-introducing an industrial relations system in which every worker was guaranteed the protection of union membership, including automatic inclusion, at the time of hiring, in an industry-wide agreement setting forth minimum wage-rates and conditions.

    Try that one on them. Hell! Try it on your caucus colleagues!

    See how far you get.

Dearie me! Clare Curran has stirred up a hornet's nest, and is taking a blog-flogging from Labour and Green voters, the like of which we haven't seen before. But having made one mistake, she committed the cardinal sin of repeating it when she mafde this comment in response to those above, and all the others:

  • Clare Curran says:

    Listen to you all. Go and knock on some bloody doors will you and stop pontificating. Get down to South Dunedin and see what it’s really like. Foodbanks are empty.
    People are desperate.

    Yes I am angry and it shows.


Clare's not the only one who's angry. Her comment just reignited the flames in the comments section; here's a smorgasbord, starting with Idiot/Savant again:


  • Yes, and its terrible. But if you want to do anything about it, you actually need to persuade people to vote for you. Instead, you’re just arrogantly demanding we do, like some medieval king ordering his peasants.

    Some people might regard that as counterproductive.

  • Unbelievable arrogance from the Labour Party. And given Labour’s history over the last 30 years, the amazing thing is that the unions have allowed such arrogance to develop. Labour should have lost their support long ago.
  • I’ve been fence-sitting between Labour and the Greens for a number of years now and recently took the plunge to become a full member of the Green party. Posts like this show this was the right thing to do.

We could go on, but this post is almost unmanageably long already! This is a SMOG of epic proportions from Clare Curran; bigger than Ben Hur. Combined with the polls last night and the follow-up story from Duncan Garner on 3News tonight, the Labour Party might just wish that it was 27th November tomorrow, and they could start all over again with a clean slate, and three years to get traction.





10 comments:

Mike Readman said...

I was white-anting her a bit last night, but that was NOTHING compared to this! Loving it.

jabba said...

what's even worse, Fention came on to deflect the attacks and she failed as well.
CC has had a few bad hair days over the past month or so

James Stephenson said...

Surely "white anting" is undermining from within? So how does that happen from the right of politics?

Stil any sort of undermining is superfluous when you take a 12-bore to your own foot like that!

Anonymous said...

Yes this is an amazing turn of events. Usually you will see the sock puppets of the collective joke, also known as the standard, race over to redblert to malign and denigrate anyone giving the Liarbore posters a hard time.

So far no mud slinging as yet from the frothing union fundamentalist wingnut leftards.

robertguyton said...

I see you still have that fruit-loop 'Anonymous' (@9:16) bothering you Inv2!
He's a bore.

Inventory2 said...

What about all those Labour votes headed the Greens' way Rob? Hope you send Clare Curran a thank you card.

Anonymous said...

Oops spoke too soon. The odious greg presland has turned up on redblert and bubgayton still hasn't got the message.

You lefty diehards who love a wankfest while you all bathe together in the "take it from the creators and earners and give it to the idle" cesspit, are becoming increasingly irrelevant.

PM of NZ said...

Time to pull up the laz-y-boy, crack a Tui or two and watch the dance of the desperate entertainment to its inevitable conclusion. Priceless!

robertguyton said...

What can Duncan be alluding to, Inv2?
He posted this comment at The Standard:

23 August 2011 at 9:05 am

Mr Robins,

You may find the final ‘salacious tidbit’ that’s being ‘carefully drip fed’ slightly more favourable to your way of thinking tonight, and the ‘hungry right wing pack’ might not be so happy.

Watch at six.

Cheers
Duncan Garner

Inventory2 said...

Probably refers to this Rob; a FB friend was polled by Reid Research last week:

part 3 is about asset sales and where u you invest a mythical 20k

Cold comfort for Labour though, while they implode, and the Greens feed off the carcass...