Auckland protester Sheree Carbery, 40, supported the march with her 6-year-old son Braydon McCallum who joined in by shouting: "John Key is a donkey".
There you go Dear Readers; that's why people are occupying Aotea Square. They're protesting about issues that really matter to New Zealand, and focusing on issues, rather than personalities. Need we say more?
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May I humbly disagree? John Roughan in The Herald is far more quoteable in relation to the "Rena":
This week nothing seems as certain, not even the election now that something has happened to remind us of it and raise the question. How well are we being governed, really?
Of course you may Robert, because you're so much more courteous than your southern name-sake!
And may I respond with this from John Armstrong yesterday:
The beach at Mount Maunganui has not only been ankle-deep in sticky black tar. It has been knee-deep in politicians.
Phil Goff, at least, showed some restraint in delaying his visit. He then blew it by calling for a moratorium on new deep-sea oil drilling until suitable environmental safeguards are in place. He may have only been matching the Greens. But this was policy-making on the hoof pure and simple.
This political circus has not been bothered with letting the facts get in the way.
The facts were, however, that it would not have made any difference had a vessel been available earlier to offload the 1700 tonnes of fuel oil on the Rena.
Your turn...
The Greens are like worms digging into a corpse.
The media are all excited now as they think this Rena BS will lead to a closer election.
Not so sure.
As with the RWC so-called fiasco, which apparently impacted the Nats vote, those of us with brains don't go blaming the government for everything.
Yep. The left have all-but asserted that John Key deliberately drove the vessel on to any available reef. The media have gobbled it all up like a ravenous hyena.
Cadwallader
Goff's call for a moratorium on new deep sea drilling for oil is spot on.
I wouldn't dismiss the idea simply because 'Goff said it" as so many here would (showing their severe myopia)Goff is right, and having recognised that the Greens know exactly what they are talking about should be to his credit (but not here on Keeping Stock - remember, we must criticise and erode everything Goff says, and we must do it relentlessly!
"There you go Dear Readers; that's why people are occupying Aotea Square."
What infantile crap that is, Inv2.
Fredinthegrass over at Ele's Homepaddock makes an intelligent comment about the reasons for these protests. One that makes yours look like that of a reactionary Tory.
Fred says:
"People feel disenfranchised by governments and bad big business, and the cronyism pervading them. This is not about anti-capitalism at all. It is about abuse of privileges by a section of capitalists who have totally abrogated their responsibilities. People have had enough of the bailouts to then see indecent payouts to a greedy few."
Did you hear the 1pm news Robert? SIXTY people stayed at Aotea Square last night. And someone who has been for a look this morning, is a candidate in Nov ( not for Nats, Lab, Greens or Act) says it is little more than a Mana Party campaign. He wonders if they will includes it on their election expenses.
PS - compare your snarky, bitchy offering with Robert Winter's considered, courteous response - just sayin'
Robert's a gentleman. He's telling you that you are wrong also.
Your attempt to smear the protesters through cherry-picking one statement from one woman, is transparent and boorish. Dull too.
Funny that.. I thought the statement in question was from a six year old, not a woman. And was quoted to demonstrate the heady level of comprehension and solid grasp of political thought that was present among the group.
"John Key is a donkey".
"There you go Dear Readers; that's why people are occupying Aotea Square."
Possibly the lamest claim ever made here at Keeping Stock.
Nope. I've just been informed that there have been worse. God help us all.
What I find lame is Robert's infantile talent at connecting imaginary dots.
Bob G, would it not be fair to say that a very good many of the voters on the left like yourself, would benefit most from some extraction of the mineral & oil wealth lying beneath us....
It can be done in an environmental way, just many Pinko's feel the need to advocate that it cannot be done environmentally...
A country can always be governed better, like any employee, student can always improve or do better... However, when the rubber hits the road, the most challenging times over the past almost 3 years, the country is in a far better position being governed by National... And again, can they improve, dam straight they can. To add to that, John Key would be the first to say they could improve....
When the Pinko's realize that John Key is a personable human, unlike the vast majority of the Labour Peeps, they will be half way there...
Whafe - your comment deserves a reasonable response, unlike to ditzy Moist, who seems unable to settle his mind to a coherent thought. It has to be said though, that your use of the term 'pinko' is infantile.
You say:
" Bob G, would it not be fair to say that a very good many of the voters on the left like yourself, would benefit most from some extraction of the mineral & oil wealth lying beneath us...."
Your point is confused. What do you mean 'most'? Do you think the 'good many left voters' would benefit more from such extraction? More than whom?
"It can be done in an environmental way, just many Pinko's feel the need to advocate that it cannot be done environmentally..."
What can be done 'in an environmental way? Lignite mining? Please tell me more, as I'm convinced (and well armed with fact) that it's not possible. Bring on your argument!
"A country can always be governed better, like any employee, student can always improve or do better..."
That's probably true Whafe.
"However, when the rubber hits the road, the most challenging times over the past almost 3 years, the country is in a far better position being governed by National..."
Now you are wallowing in your own opinion, with nothing to support you but the opinions of other Key-supporters on blogs like KS. Standard and Poors certainly don't agree with you. They downgraded the country as a result of National's poor performance.
"And again, can they improve, dam straight they can. To add to that, John Key would be the first to say they could improve...."
Well that's just swell. Golly, what a bloke.
"When the Pinko's realize that John Key is a personable human, unlike the vast majority of the Labour Peeps, they will be half way there..."
And you end with pure, unadulterated crap. Started kinda okay, ended in drivel. At least you gave me something to play with. Looking forward to your evidence around environmentally-friendly lignite mining. Maybe you'll through in what you know about deep-sea oil drilling done safely ( hint: don't mention the Gulf of Mexico!)
I was out and about at crack of dawn this morning.
As I bimbled around the town i had to pass Aotea Square a couple times.
One had to look rather hard to see the "occupiers'.
Having thought about it I'm surprised that Aotea Square was chosen for occupation as it is hardly at the centre of town and not particularly prominent if you are trying to get a message accross.
Once you have dealt with the street people then there is the cold south westerly breeze that sweeps across the place.
I hope every-one has had their shots.
You say: Your point is confused. What do you mean 'most'? Do you think the 'good many left voters' would benefit more from such extraction? More than whom?
Sorry the point came across confusing. I was meaning & don't take it as generalising, but a good many left voters, whom come from say Wharfing, Freezing Works, Strong Union type employment etc would benefit greatly from the jobs that would & could be created from "extraction" (coal, oil, gas etc - not Lignite)
"It can be done in an environmental way, just many Pinko's feel the need to advocate that it cannot be done environmentally..."
I am not about to have a debate on the topic of lignite extraction, something I have no knowledge on. However I do think that coal can be mined in a safe / environmental way, as can gas / oil be extracted (I am trying to get across the point of the ability to financially help the country, am not so great a writer as some)
Now you are wallowing in your own opinion, with nothing to support you but the opinions of other Key-supporters on blogs like KS. Standard and Poors certainly don't agree with you. They downgraded the country as a result of National's poor performance.
It could well be my opinion, however am cool with that. S&P did indeed lower out credit rating, there is far more to that than myself and perhaps you know. My opinion is that even if the government had been led by Labour, the credit rating would have still occurred. I am not wanting to come across like blaming the past, but the previous decade had money a plenty, the world was a wash with excess cash, any Tom, Dick or Harry could have run NZ.
Well that's just swell. Golly, what a bloke.
Indeed he is a well rounded good bloke. Not your cup of tea, but you cannot deny that he comes across far better than say Phil Goff.
"When the Pinko's realize that John Key is a personable human, unlike the vast majority of the Labour Peeps, they will be half way there..."
So, you feel that the strategy that is being laid out and executed by Labour of trying to lay crap on the current PM etc etc is a winning strategy? To use your words, if you feel Labour are going about it in a good way, that is unadulterated crap
Whafe - there are jobs to be had from mining. Not so many as the industry would have us believe, going by experience and far, far less benefit to the communities that are home to the extractive industries, than those same industry promoters claim. Waihi, anyone?
Never the less, I take your point - some left-voters would be employed in those industries. It's a shame you can't/won't debate the environmental aspects of such industry, as it's important. Perhaps Ross will step in to defend the diggers and drillers.
As to Labour's strategy, I don't have strong feelings about that, not being a Labour supporter. Comparing Key with Goff, I see a populist show-pony whose team has besmirched Goff's image. That's not to say I believe Goff to be excellent, it's just that I don't buy the 'useless' brand that he's been given. I find Inv2's constant eroding of Goff, boring and transparent, as I've met Goff, spoken to him for half an hour or so, and think I've a good idea of what he's really like. I've met and talked with Key also, and have that experience to base my views on.
If I was to take one brief period of time and compare the behaviours of Key and Goff, I would chose the final day in the House where Key did his throat-slitting act, and Goff spoke in response to Key's adolescent actions. From that, I would strongly favour the Labour leader over the National leader.
Key's behaviour was shameful and revealed what I already knew of him, to a much wider audience, most especially, the media.
Robert; you comment on my "constant eroding of Goff", which you claim to find "boring and transparent".
What about your constant eroding of John Key; references to his nose, his speech, his gait and other personal traits? Should discerning readers find those "boring and transparent" as well, or are you just a hypocrite?
Good points...
Am in AB mode, so cannot reply to your last post...
John Key has a gait??
I'd not mention personal details like that in public, Inv2, I'm far too discrete for that.
Am I "boring and transparent", harping on about Key?
OF COURSE I AM!
Your turn.
Infantile crap - i second that.
Good to see this is the worst that you could say though INV2, regarding the protest that you screamed would cause so much trouble that the Auckland City Council should intervene, and was nothing more than bunch of ragtag's attempts to take away attention from the precious rugby.
Nice one.
Jeez jacqueline, and Robert called moist ditzy!!
Anonymous is a stand-over man who likes his dinner on the table NOW!
good old Bobby G ..do you have a brother called Ali by any chance?
I see bOb got interested in the possibilty that JK had a gait. Maybe he got confused with gate as he loves taking photos of them
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