Wednesday, November 16, 2011

We can't help but wonder IV

There's been a lot of faux outrage from the Left over the allegedly illegal taping of the conversation between John Key and John Banks.

We can't help but wonder what the response from the Left would have been had say Phil Goff and Winston Peters had been secretly and illegally taped having a chat over a whisky. Is their double standard showng?

And we also can't help but wonder if talk of replacing Act leader Don Brash might actually be seen by potential Act voters as a good thing!

18 comments:

Jacqueline said...

And if it was Phil Goff and Winston Peters that had been recorded you would be screaming for it to be released, and showing absolute disgust at them comparing the recording to that of the hacking of a murdered teenager's phone.

We all know that.

It swings both ways INV.

Inventory2 said...

What Key actually said and how the media has distorted it are somewhat different Jacqui; check this out:

Earlier yesterday, Mr Key said his police complaint was based on principle.

"What happens when it moves to other high profile New Zealanders having a conversation with their wives about personal issues?

"What happens if a couple of high profile New Zealanders have a conversation about their son or their daughter being suicidal - a Sunday paper reports that and that child takes their own life. We're at the start of a slippery slope here and I for one am going to stand up and ask the police to investigate it."


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10766325

Key has never made that comparison; the media has taken his words and made it for him.

As for the other bit; probably guilty as charged!

Anonymous said...

Poor John Key! He's just like Mille Dowler's family! He's a victim here. Sure he organised a media scrum as a PR stunt to try to manipulate public opinion and was dumb enough to leave a tape running on the table, ebut it's all about the principle (except if the shoe had ben on the other foot, then other principles would apply).

Inventory2 said...

Thank you for illustrating the point of this post so eloquently Anon!

James Stephenson said...

Why do lefties always jump to the Millie Dowler comparison?

OK, that's somewhat of a rhetorical question, but the case that started the whole NOTW scandal rolling was the compensation paid out following the hacking of Gordon Taylor's phone.

Yeah, I suppose I wouldn't be interested in that, if I was a Key Derangement Syndrome sufferer, either...

Moist von Lipwig said...

Help me out here.

Do all cross-party talks prior to an election need to be made a matter of public record, or just the National/Act ones?

Anonymous said...

The outrage is genuine, not faux. Key and banks are worthy of the backlash they get for behaving like petulant schoolboys on the taxpayers dollar. It is deplorable the way Nats and act are treating new Zealand and its people. Did you read his comments on child suicide? Do you akshully believe he doesn't,t remember what he said?
Key is a disgrace and it is areal shame that the blind faith means some do not see it.

Inventory2 said...

Oh Anon; you were looking so genuine until you made the sly little dig there...

Sir Loin said...

How many National Party supporters protested outside the conferences of left wing parties ? 0.

How many left wing candidates and their rag tag followers protested outside the National Party conference and sneaked in to disrupt it ? Sue Bradford and a much bigger number than 0.

How many National /ACT supporters have defaced left wing billboards ? 0.

How many left wing supporters have defaced National / ACT billboards ? I think we know the answer to that.

The left are hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

The outrage is not faux. Many people (even those of us on the right) are totally peed off with the way the PM has dealt with this and with what he has likely said to John Banks.

James Stephenson said...

"and with what he has likely said to John Banks."

I don't think there's anyone, genuinely on the Right, that gives a flying fuck what Key and Banks said to each other.

Banks is, after all, the man once introduced by Key as "the Super Mayor of Auckland City". If not friends, they are certainly long-time trusted associates.

Releasing the tape of their conversation is IMO, no different than bugging a telephone conversation between them - and I'm saying that as someone who is probably not going to vote ACT *because* of John Banks.

Jacqueline said...

Moist - maybe just the ones that the media have been invited to in order to get the most bang for their buck?

This whole thing is so childish it is funny.

Invite the country's media to ogle you having a cup of tea with a 60 year old Harry Potter look alike then get mad when someone hears what you said?

You gotta be kidding me.

I thought it was See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil...not See evil, speak evil, but hear no evil.

Anonymous said...

John Banks on 3news last night reminded me of
Kath Day Knight (from Kath & Kim) when she took drugs at Kim's hens do.

That's worth a police investigation in itself.

Suz said...

I cannot believe that anything more profound than the quality of the served beverages, and the ambience of the surrounds was discussed. It was a staged meeting, intended to send a message (imo, an insulting one) to the Epsom electorate.

Surely both men would have more political savvy, than to bitch about anything in full view of the invited media. Forget microphones, I'd have been more concerned about a couple of strategically placed lip-readers.

Inventory2 said...

You must have missed Close Up last night Suz; Sainsbury and co tried that, even suggesting to the lip-reader that the name she was grappling to get was "Brash". The whole thing was rendered useless though when the lipreader herself said that deaf people only get 30% of their communication via lip-reading, and that it was an inexact science!

Suz said...

Anon@9.54 what a great episode that was..I'll never view garden sprinklers in the same way again!

Suz said...

Damn, I didn't see that Inv. What if anything was deciphered?

I bet that 30% is higher in other countries..us kiwis are notorious for talking nasally! Not to mention through other orifices depending on your view-point :)

Inventory2 said...

Too true Suz!

Let's just say that it wasn't Sainsbury's finest hour. Here's the link:

http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/tuesday-november-15-4539270/video