We saw this poll on Stuff last night:
Is the tide of public opinion turning? The issue of whether or not the Government had a mandate to pass the partial sale legislation was one of the key issues debated in the last couple of weeks. And this poll suggests that public opinion is much closer than it may have been.
Almost 10,000 people have responded to this Stuff poll, so as internet polls go, it is a pretty good and statistically valid number for a poll of this genre. And whether or not people like the idea of asset sales, there's almost a 50/50 split as to whether the John Key-led Government had the right to deliver on a key election promise.
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Lots of uninformed people on Campbell live last night
Why does that not surprise? It's an audience that Campbell loves to play to.
Lots of New Zealanders don't understand that oxygen is a requirement for living, so of course lots are going to struggle with the concept of being allowed to buy shares in a company but that they will not own the company.
Yes, Paul. Thanks for the admission that tories think New Zealanders are thick. That's why they're doing this after all. I'm thinking that you're kind of lacking in the character department. Are you a real estate agent?
Keep spinning IV2. There's $$ to be made!
I realise that this will be challenging Judge, but how about just for once you comment on the actual topic of the post rather than attacking the author and commenters; just sayin'...
If your commentators accidentally tell the truth about how they find pulling the wings off flies entertaining or that they think New Zealanders are stupid I'm going to highlight that. I think it's a good thing people know about the nature of the tory, don't you?
I was at a busy cafe in one of student cities in NZ about afternoon after lunch. Saw an asset sales signatures book on the counter, there're only 2 signatures. An hour later, still only 2 signatures.
"tories think New Zealanders are thick"
The "tories" (Why bother with such a meaningless word in the NZ context? It does just mark you out as a mindless lefty muppet.)aren't the ones telling barefaced lies in their policy advertising...so who really thinks the electorate is thick?
@ James - we can probably deduce that Judge Holden's choice of language means that he's working class and proud of it.
By the way, if NZers did not know that National was going to sell state assets, please explain this: http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2012/4798/
"Judge, but how about just for once you comment on the actual topic of the post rather than attacking the author and commenters; just sayin'..."
Not going to happen any time soon KS, his main purpose in commenting is to admire his reflection, not add any sense to a debate.
"The "tories" ...aren't the ones telling barefaced lies in their policy advertising."
What do you call "a brighter future"? Are we there yet (unless you're a chum of Steven Joyce, of course)? And if you want to talk about barefaced lies, John Banks is still drawing a ministerial salary.
What I'd like to see is a poll as to whether governments ought buy more "assets" or not? Remember the delightful Cullen's purchase of the rail network? Were any of us asked as to whether or not we wanted it?
Cadwallader
Look! Over there! Is Penny Dim your girlfriend or are you competing in your apparent crush on Banksie?
Re: Brighter future, perhaps you should ask someone who's had a National Standards assessment for their child, that they've found very useful; or travelled to the Coromandel and not had to wait 40 minutes for a one-lane bridge; or been involved in the waay-ahead of the Aussies, having caught up and overtaken, UFB project?
Oh wait, you just did, yep it's looking like it's fining up ok could be happening faster but...
Keeping Stock said...
@ James - we can probably deduce that Judge Holden's choice of language means that he's working class
Lacking class would be more like it.
On topic, I notice a review on Kiwiblog this morning of Backbenchers notes the audiences have been taken over by activists.
This is also how one must view on-line polls, with mainly the activist types being interested in the attached stories and, of course, the activist-nutter-types voting proudly and often.
I therefore reject any supposition based on such polls, including that the electorate has finally matured.
Come n, Inv. in the context of New Zealand's Parliamentary Dictatorship, of course Key had a mandate. The Mixed Ownership Model was part of the policy platform, and the Nats managed to cobble together a coalition. Ergo, mandate delivered.
That said, I think it's time for a grown-up discussion (and being a grown-up discussion, must preclude your friend Sludge) on binding referenda. The current system of CIRs is a joke, and even National's most ardent cheer-leader (Adolf?) has to agree that National (like Liarbore before them, but surely we must hold the Nats to a higher standard than Liarbore?) have treated the electorate with utter contempt (talking of historical referenda, not the manufactured non-referendum the watermelons are desperately trying to put together).
For me, I'd like to see the government get right out of ALL commercial endeavors. All government ownership of the electricity supply chain has done is distort the market, drive up prices and lead to supply shortages. Get the government and the greenies out of the way.
And finally, Sludge, of course New Zealanders are stupid. The universal franchise has been a complete and utter failure the world over, but nowhere more so than NZ. The 9 Years of Darkness (and the watermelons' current polling) prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that e vast majority of kiwis are simply too stupid to have a say in the electoral process.
Sorry guntt, did you say you wanted a mature discussion? Hilarious.
Heh. Someone is spending their Thursday morning proving my point.
I see that Holdens have been judged today and found wanting....a bit like their namesake here on this blog, they catch fire from time to time....
Oh dear what a silly wee Guntt. You want a discussion on binding referenda, yet:
"New Zealanders are stupid. The universal franchise has been a complete and utter failure the world over, but nowhere more so than NZ."
You're actually such a stupid Guntt, that you don't know what you want, other than the massacre of people with whom you disagree. That would suit you fine. Now get back to sitting on the couch watching your self-esteem slip away, you unemployable layabout.
"Re: Brighter future, perhaps you should ask someone who's had a National Standards assessment for their child, that they've found very useful; or travelled to the Coromandel and not had to wait 40 minutes for a one-lane bridge; or been involved in the waay-ahead of the Aussies, having caught up and overtaken, UFB project?"
Oh my God, James, is that the best you can come up with? What ambition! There's no one in the first category, the UFB thing that hasn't even happened yet, and a wee road in the country. That's a brighter future? No wonder people are leaving for Australia in record numbers.
Let's see. One of us can differentiate between the failure of the universal franchise and a desire for binding referenda. The other confuses the two. One of us can post a comment related to the topic. The other is completely incapable if doing anything except spit bile and stupidity. One of us is posting on his iPad between meetings at a client site in the great city of Melbourne on a beautiful winters day. The other is sitting in his mothers basement, typing with one hand and the other down his pajama pants.
Oh so you mean binding referenda, but where you're the only one allowed to vote, coz you're so clever and all. Good luck with that idea, you old guntt.
It's sweet that you're pretending to have something to do. Keep telling yourself that, and stay away from gun shops.
"The other is sitting in his mothers basement, typing with one hand and the other down his pajama pants."
Summed him up perfectly, Gantt.
Says the retard who can't even think up a name for herself.
"The other is sitting in his mothers basement, typing with one hand and the other down his pajama pants."
Brilliant! Yes that description does sum you up drudge. As well as your southern watermelon cuzzy ... bubbagayton
It's revealing that generic abusive cliches that have been around since the internets got invented are considered witty by you losers. No wonder you fall for everything that nice Mr Key says. You all need to get out a little more.
...Says judge from the basement.
This blog is a disgrace. It's like a poo that has attracted greedy, dirty little flies, all sucking on the muck with their tiny undeveloped mouth-parts.
"The other is sitting in his mothers basement, typing with one hand and the other down his pajama pants".
that is pure gold .. annoyed I didn't say it myself
been a busy weekend so am way behind on news
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