Wednesday, July 25, 2012

Egg; meet face


Now; what might this miscievious Facebook update from Judith Collins have to do with the price of fish?

The answer might be found in this post over at The Standard, which begins thus:

Ha ha ha! Wasn’t it funny when Judith Collins brandished a TASER at the National Party conference and said she wanted to use it on Trevor Mallard. I guess it’s alright for me to whip out an airgun or a knife next time I’m at the pub. You know,  as a joke. Oh? It’s only OK when Ministers are using to further their phony tough guy brand? Must have missed that section of the Arms Act.

What followed was a lengthy dissertation from Michael Bott, civil liberties lawyer and 2011 Labour Party candidate about how illegal it would be for Ms Collins to be in possession of a taser. And the comments thread started in a similar vein.

But it's egg; meet face time for whoever wrote The Standard's guest post. Firstly, Judith Collins didn't brandish a taser, as claimed. But secondly, a commenter reminded readers of a similar incident with a reference to a taser some years ago, which the Herald reported at the time:

The Exclusive Brethren have complained to the Human Rights Commission about criticism of them in Parliament, which has included senior Cabinet minister Trevor Mallard referring to members as "chinless scarf-wearers".
Helen Clark rejected the suggestion her party was indulging in "hate speech".
Asked about Mr Mallard's threats to expose details of MPs' private lives, the Prime Minister said: "I'm thinking of asking the Minister of Police for a Taser gun for Trevor."

Oh dear. But if you really want to see what some on the Left really think about Judith Collins, Hekia Parata and other National ministers, scroll down to David H's "contribution" at 1.01pm and start downwards from there. Clearly, the moderators at The Standard were having a day off yesterday.

The blogosphere is a robust place. But there's a big difference between robust debate and personal abuse. Thankfully, since adopting a new comments policy a couple of weeks ago there has been far less of the latter, and glimpses of the former. That can only be a good thing.

In the meantime, all that talk about eggs is making us hungry; maybe we'll have an omelette for lunch!

16 comments:

bsprout said...

Sometimes I wonder how much time and effort is spent by our two largest parties arguing over such petty trivia as this. Rather than litigation over accusations and constantly trying to justify one rash ill informed comment after another, why can't the real issues be strongly debated? We have enough of them that are continually being sidelined:
Child poverty
No jobs
Housing shortage
80% of our lowland rivers polluted
dysfunctional ACC
Child health and Welfare amongst the worst in OECD
Highest youth suicide rates in OECD.

Instead we get half baked schemes like increasing class sizes, exploding spending on consultants (who charge huge amounts for hotel accommodation and restaurants while Bennett looks to cut beneficiaries food grants) and the bulk of government spending is on roads that don't stack up.

And talking of roads, BERL has done an economic assessment of the most productive roads and they happen to be our rural roads that logging trucks and milk tankers use. Of course the maintenance of these roads has been cut considerably to fund the holiday motorway and I even heard a suggestion that it would be better to have them return to gravel.

CB said...

Gees BS, you're a glass half empty chap aren't ya.

Child poverty - or is it parental neglect.
No Jobs - Well the 94% of us in work don't seem to have any trouble. Trade Me has 11,500 of them up for grabs.
Housing Shortage, umm go look at Trade Me again BS, there's over 32,000 of them for sale. Maybe you mean young whipper snapper MP's can't afford a mansion in Grey Lynn. Bet you she could get one in New Lynn but wouldn't want to live with the smelly westies would she.

Do I really need to go on and on and on....

How about you pay a quick visit to Spain then you will be able to see where we will be heading when your lot are in charge of finance.

bsprout said...

CB- I guess your response explains why my list continues to exist. :-(

Hester said...

@bsprout

Did you see the interesting piece on TV1 last night about the artificial wetland and the mechanical aerator, both of which were being employed to clean central North Island lakes?

bsprout said...

Hester - I caught some of it, it would be wonderful if it does work and then we need a solution to didymo.

I spent a couple of years overseas in the eighties and really missed New Zealand's clean rivers and lakes (most were at the time). Since my return there have been continuous reports on the degradation of our lowland rivers and lakes and I think we are now worse off than the countries I returned from.
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/life/publications/lifepublications/lifefocus/documents/rivers.pdf

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Could have been worse.

Some in the Labour Party might have thought it was a vibrator.

onelaw4all said...

The real world is a bitch, isn't it, Sprout?

No rebuttal?

Keeping Stock said...

Read through The Standard comments Adolf, and you will see that someone did!

Keeping Stock said...

@ bsprout; don't try to defend The Standard by going off-topic.

Spinoza said...

I love the way the National Party Research Unit feeds you these little snippets, complete with links to ancient news, that they wouldn't sully themselves with, but still want out there. It's sweet that you're one of their free proxies.

Keeping Stock said...

Nice one Spinoza; if only I were that well connected.

Go to The Standard post as I did, and you'll see it all there, including a link to the Herald story from when Clark made the comment about Mallard.

Enlightened! said...

Thanks for pointing me to that website KS. I saw a very relevant and illuminating infographic there about deficits and the terrible awful almost criminal job your leader is delivering.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

While all you lefties are spinning like whirling dervishes, Roy Morgan just put some cold steel up your arses.

Nat+Act+Cons = 51.5%

Spinoza said...

When Adolf sees a poll he likes it's unassailable gospel. When it's one he doesn't like it's a communist media conspiracy. The poor old guy is very confused and should have studied harder during those maths lessons at school. Lucky he's never worked in the financial services industry. Oh wait... Thankfully he's unemployed now..

bsprout said...

Apologies, KS, I should have kept on topic by referring to arses and vibrators ;-)

My first comment still stands, but I accept my last paragraph veered off somewhat.

Onelaw4all- It could be a hell of a lot better if we focussed on the staff that really mattered!

bsprout said...

Change "staff" to stuff.